Minoxidil bad for lasering ?

Now, I believe it is true that how minoxidl works towards growing hair is only speculated, so maybe minoxidil have some kind of effect on our hair follicles that directly contributes towards inhibiting an effect of lasering. JDP, OMG, anyone, thoughts?. A lot of you gyus are a masters with your knowledge, maybe you've got some thoughts around this, or could help me with your knowledge.

Myself, I find this highly interesting beacuse I have a feeling that there HAS to be more to this then ONLY the minox itself being bad for you.

If the rest of the hair loss world doesn't follow on this either -bashing real laser devices without trying them, and STILL touting minox even though it isn't even working for them- then f*ck 'em.

But Norwegian Kid...

Yeah, there COULD BE something else going on. I personally -just off the top of my head and making generalized deductions which could be completely wrong- I think the "miniaturization effect" is masking the benefits of LLLT. So, maybe the benefits are still happening, but they just can't be seen. I'm "playing with" this hypothesis... we know LLLT helps the hair get thicker AT THE POINT OF THE FOLLICLE, meaning the follicle gets healthy again and consequently produces thicker hair. Well, maybe the "hair miniaturization" process with minoxidil occurs AFTER the follicle... meaning that a healthy hair will be produced, but minox somehow after the fact causes it to be miniaturized. Therefore, you just don't see the results. Yeah, the theory has a ton of holes in it, it's probably wrong and it very well could be that LLLT benefits AREN'T occuring at all on a "minox scalp"! I know, but it's a start at least! lol... Either way, I certainly think it's well proven to be a DETRIMENT to the scalp -but no minox company is going to tell us that, and we are just being able to clearly see this for ourselves.

-O.M.G.

After stopping minox, its been 4 months, I finally feel like my hair is stabilizing fully and I have some definite terminal hairs growing in on my temples. BTW I am also on Super Zix II and a lot of internals but I have done that before on its own with little results so it is definitely the lasers so far. I will say that MagOil and Emu Oil have increased the benefits of lasering though.

I agree with you about getting minox off the market, totally, no question about it, but what I am pointing at with my thread is ABSOLUTELY relevant when what we all here on this forum aim for the best results possible. What I want to say is that if minox directly has some kind of inhibiting effect on lasering, then there may aswell be other topicals or internals or whatever that some of us that may do the same thing, theoretically. Because, we all want to achieve great results dont we, and correct me if Im wrong, but we will all be in this fight against hairloss for a long time, so we might aswell speculate in everything that is worth speculating in.

OVERMACHOGRANDE, I see your thinking, and you've got good points, but, yeah, like we both agree upon, its only speculations so far. If there should be a direct correlation between the two or not, we dont know yet, but if it is a fact that many of those that does not get results with lasering use minox, then that is a alarm bell ringing loud man! lol. And as I stated above, if minox inhibits, other stuff might aswell too, and, after all, we WOULD like to know about this, especially I would, because we want this GODgiven gift that lasers has shown to be to work as best as absolutely possible! But yeah, as I said, I believe it is great that we do speculate around this issue, because there are so many of us that either use or have been using minox, I used it for a year until no, overdosing on it like you wouldnt know, MAN, why did I do that, LOL And when i spoke to my professor about lasering and what it REALLY does, Man, I gotta tell you, he used the word possibly alot. So, we got a long way to go, lol

Probably the same thing with minoxidil. LLLT is a vasodilator. Minoxidil is a vasodilator.

I also believe the same thing can happen if your diodes run very hot. If your diodes run very hot, then the benefits of LLLT are reduced as well as the heat and LLLT are both canceling each other out, IMO. That is one of the reasons why I always stress about building your laser helmet correctly.

About "hot diodes", I dont really understand what you are thinking here. Personally, my diodes DO get warm. And I have to say, I have been kind of worried about this whole "hot diodes" issue, because, I've been wondering what you put in the term hot diodes, mine do get warm, like comfortable warm. But that IS just normal, after all, laser IS energy, and some of that energy WOULD be lost in the environment, causing warm diodes But I believe you refer to hot hot like "shit this is hot "? lol